Getting a Router in Another Room

by Nick on 27 July 2010 13:19

If you are like me, you have some form of high-speed internet coming into your house. You probably have Cable or DSL or something else, and then a “main” router where there the Internet comes from “out there” to “in here”.  You probably then have it served up with a wireless router.  Me?  I have Comcast cable piped into a NETGEAR WNR2000 Wireless-N Router. From there, I send the wires out to three computers in the room for my wife and kids.  I then use the wireless with my notebook around  Works pretty well.

But I have an office upstairs, and I wanted to put a server up there as well as a notebook on a desk for my use.  That’s two computers.  Now the notebook has a wireless care built in, but the server doesn’t, and I loathed the idea of putting a wireless card in a desktop.  I could run a wire up through the house, but what a pain in the butt.  So I needed to figure out how to get my wireless signal up to a router in my office.

I went to Best Buy and I got a Linksys Bridge.  It was a bit tricky to set up, but I did, and it worked pretty well.  It was somewhat intermittent, but I was able to have  switch up in my office with connectivity to any number of machines. 

But then, out of nowhere, the thing stopped working.  It just bricked itself.  No lights, no power, no nothing. Great.  So, off to Best Buy again, with a determination not buy that Linksys Bridge again.  So the nice sales gal there pointed me to a NetGear Gaming router that is basically a wireless bridge.  I guess that these things are very popular for gaming consoles so they market them mostly to gamers.  So I’m slowly walking out, and this other guy comes up to me and says “That will work for what you want, but I can show you something that is faster and more reliable”. 

Well, I don’t know about you, but I am into faster and more reliable, so I followed him, and he showed me this:

I was a bit hesitant at first, as it seemed a bit strange to pump my connection through my household power lines and the box explicitly calls it an “XBox 360” kit (that gaming thing again), but the guy said it works perfectly for a regular network and that he’d personally take my return if it didn’t work exactly like I wanted.

Well, as far as I can tell, he’ll never see me again. This thing worked like a charm. It was pathetically easy to install – network cable out of my router, into device, which I plugged into the wall.  Then, up in the office, I plug in the other one, with a network cable out of it into my switch.  Simple, clean, and easy.  It worked immediately, and the total setup time (hardware only, no software to configure) was literally five minutes. 

So far, it’s working great.  I now want to find out if I can buy one of these things and use it in yet another room.  That would be even cooler, as we have a renter who’d really appreciate that.

All in all, a purchase that I’m really happy with.

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Jouni Aro
Jouni Aro Finland on 7/27/2010 3:08:50 PM

Hi Nick,

I also purchased a pair of NetGear's powerline adapters (XAVB2001 - no XBox mentioned to scare me off) to my parents house just a couple of months ago (when I got them switched away from an expensive and non-working ADSL, without WLAN, to a CableTV-based net connection). It works like a charm, whereas the WLAN in our own apartment occasionally fails, even from a few meters.

I was surprised that I had not heard about them before, or that they are a real (and best) solution today for inter-house connections.

PS. Good luck to your new career, wherever it will be!

Barry Kelly
Barry Kelly United Kingdom on 7/27/2010 3:43:31 PM

To solve a very similar problem, I put a wireless card and an extra gigabit network card in my Windows Server 2008 machine. I use the server as a NAT, have the wireless card communicating with my internet router over an encrypted connection, and then I have an 8-port gigabit switch and a wireless access point attached to the two network connections. My NAS (a Solaris (nexenta) box), PCs and Mac mini, and often laptops connect to the switch so they get gigabit speed for file transfer, especially to and from the NAS.

The wireless AP is open for guests and easy general non-secure usage, for things like the iPad and phone browsing.

I have a business grade internet connection, so I'm contractually allowed to share the internet access with other people located at my end, and it has a static IP so I can run services. It's also unlimited; I put 250GB/month through it on a slow month, with perhaps twice that on busy months, with no complaints. Amusingly, I get frequent junk mail telling me how I can switch to a different ISP and get a "generous" 40GB/month allowance...

nick
nick United States on 7/27/2010 3:49:55 PM

Hey, Barry -- thanks for stopping by

That's a cool solution.  I don't know if I have a bandwidth limitation on my Comcast connection -- I should look at that.  I would like a Static IP address to run a web server -- that was fun when I did that back in the day. It would also be nice to have an open wireless connection for guests -- that's a great idea.

Hope all is well in London. Still waiting for a picture of the haircut.  Wink

Mike
Mike United States on 7/27/2010 4:19:10 PM

Nick,
Is the kit expandable?

william
william Hong Kong S.A.R. on 7/27/2010 5:59:00 PM

I had been using a pari of Aztech HomePlug 200M with energy saving. They work great except I needed to manually reset the pair (turned the power off/on) 2 or 3 times during the past 6 months. My usage could be a bit uncommon: connect the vDSL modem and the router since I try to avoid putting the wireless router in my child's room where the modem is located Smile

Sebastian
Sebastian Germany on 7/27/2010 10:03:25 PM

Hi,

Yes, you can put any number up to 255 of those LAN over power things in your house. I have some of those with 4 LAN ports each and also use them as little switches with their 'uplink' over power.

One side note though: At least here in Germany they stop working at the border that the device makes that measures how much energy you consume (Stromzähler). So if your and your renters power systems are separated and have measuring units both, it probably won't work across them.

@Barry: Haircut? WTF? That's not programming guru like ;)

Jeroen Pluimers
Jeroen Pluimers Netherlands on 7/28/2010 12:23:15 AM

Your 'this' is invisible, but from your text, you have LAN over powerline.

Over here in Europe, depending on how much power you draw (cooking, laundromat, dish-washer, heating, air-conditioning, etc), you might have three-phase power coming into your house.

If so, then you need a set of powerline adapters for each phase, and you need to check out where each phase comes in and ends up.

--jeroen

Jouni Aro
Jouni Aro Finland on 7/28/2010 2:07:54 AM

@Jeroen, often you only get three phase for the oven and the rest is two phase. But I don't know if there is a general rule whether they are all in the same phase or not. We also thought about this prior to the purchase, but it turned out not to be a problem, in this case at least.

You can always try and return the device if it does not work for you.

The network covers a few hundred meters, so you also need to secure your network - but the device I bought does it very simply - you just negotiate a security key by pressing a button in each device (in the same 2 minutes timeframe)

davidi
davidi United States on 7/28/2010 10:08:44 AM

I have a router connected to my DSL box.  Then I have a LinkSys wireless access point off the router.  I also have a Linksys Range Expander (my house is one story house - my neighbors call it the "long house").  You can also put additional access points that are slaved (as long as you have more recent LinkSys access points with updated firmware.


I have two circuit panels in my house - the main circuit panel and a sub-panel run off the main panel.  I'm guessing (I may know something about computers, but I am not an electrician) that these types of boxes will work from any outlet in the house, regardless of the electrical topology.

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